Well there are tons of movies about people awakening with a hungover and not knowing how the hell they got were they are.lt-shepherd wrote: ↑June 10th, 2019, 9:45 am ...
how the f did they manage to get schotmo to colorado, and if hes there, who else from the team went there too.
Slicer Dicers were in Las Vegas in Wasteland 1. Pretty sure they were made by Cochise, and there could have been innumerable ones made and sent out to who knows where. Like the 'remnants of the Master's army' super mutants one could encounter in Fallout 2. People weren't still being dipped.fuzzyballs01 wrote: ↑June 10th, 2019, 4:14 am
besides, it's not just the Scorpitrons, it's those robots you see right after the scorpitron
they were made by the Tinkerer in one airplane graveyard, and now they're suddenly in Colorado?
re-using generic enemies like raiders is fine
re-using special enemies like junk robots, who were created by one character is cheap recycling of assets
Sure, the weakest of the robots in Las Vegas. I'm sure the killers and hunters in Needles were weaker still. And the thresher clawers should've been stronger, since they appeared in Base Cochise. But in Wasteland 2 they were late Arizona, and weaker than slicer dicers. Can't expect a developer to stick to their own lore, like some nerd.
It's close, but I'd say the Slicerdicers were ever so slightly tougher than the robotic Police.
Looks like Wasteland 2 really revamped the continuity on Slicer Dicers. Aside from being way stronger than they were back in the original game, they also included a chunk of new lore on them.Gillsing wrote: ↑June 10th, 2019, 10:21 amSlicer Dicers were in Las Vegas in Wasteland 1. Pretty sure they were made by Cochise, and there could have been innumerable ones made and sent out to who knows where. Like the 'remnants of the Master's army' super mutants one could encounter in Fallout 2. People weren't still being dipped.
Part of it is them making the old areas be new areas that were in-tune with what they wanted WL2 to be (and crapping on the same sort of games they were trying to cash in on), and part of it was them wanting to do their own thing. Of course they couldn't have made anything WL1 style if they wanted to, it wasn't new-style enough. What was the closest they got, the video game in the Museum? And then they left the map entirely. And then what areas of WL1 they didn't cut out of the map, they they blew it up because they could. And then they leave for a different state to do WL3. This does not make for a stable location. They are going to have to play-up the Rangers as a force for good and adventure if they want WL3 to have an impact- and how many Final Fantasy games have they had with the same core team and the same core locations? Looks like Wasteland needs a bit of permanency like that.Gillsing wrote: ↑June 13th, 2019, 8:44 am Highpool also seemed way different from the first game. How did a summer camp turn into a pre-war water plant? And the Ag Center bunker filled with old junk under the satellite dish was turned into a high-tech complex, with the satellite dish inside. I'm not sure why any of all that had to be done that way. It's as if the first game just wasn't good enough. But if they didn't like the stuff in the original game, why not just move on and focus on new areas?
Indeed that's kind of the FF thing isn't it.. a lot of characters that are similar. Some that are named and even do the same job. But none are the same people. They are always different in ways.
Would you like to play a game of chess? Oh, look the sports game is on and they've taken the field. Car racing? Warhammer? Most sequel games are in the same places. Yes, to their credit that the WL2 creators went and threw in a bunch of WL1 locations, but they seemed to use it as an opportunity to put an ax into it. And a stake. Nothing wrong with leaving the map, that was something many WL1 players would have wanted- that one more level, one more thing to do with it. But ending the game like that instead of letting the player wander around, fight and level up, was a bit of a fumble.fuzzyballs01 wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 11:14 am dude, I haven't met a single person who would want to play a new game in the exact same location 3 times
change is good
I've not played much FF, so I don't know/care much about it, but you have to admit the 'new' one was a hit. Same characters? It's always Cloud this, guy with giant flat sword that, returning character with new look, etc etc. And it's all the same characters. And it's not limited to FF, just an example.
Please use quotes properly. You were quoting Wolfe, not me.Mole204 wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 9:37 pmI've not played much FF, so I don't know/care much about it, but you have to admit the 'new' one was a hit. Same characters? It's always Cloud this, guy with giant flat sword that, returning character with new look, etc etc. And it's all the same characters. And it's not limited to FF, just an example.
You focus on the oddest things.Airships are a bit outside the feel of the game series, though. The space shuttle in the wl3 trailer shows promise.
No wonder none of this makes sense! (waves a fistful of scribbly post-it-notes)Drool wrote: ↑June 16th, 2019, 2:13 pm FFXV was indeed a hit, but it was in a completely different world than any other game, had different characters, and even had a different combat system than any other game.
The only time there's hard continuity is when there's a game that's a direct sequel to its predecessor. So, Tactics Advance 1 and 2; FFX and FFX-2; and FFXIII and FFXIII-2.
Final Fantasy is just about the worst example you could have picked in all of gaming.
You focus on the oddest things.Airships are a bit outside the feel of the game series, though. The space shuttle in the wl3 trailer shows promise.
