Bard's Tale Trilogy Remaster - Mac/Linux versions? Clarification PLEEEASE!

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Re: Bard's Tale Trilogy Remaster - Mac/Linux versions? Clarification PLEEEASE!

Post by Sermon » June 1st, 2019, 11:29 am

Janichsan wrote:
May 31st, 2019, 2:48 pm
Let's be serious: by now it should be clear that the Mac and Linux versions won't happen. Krome is already busy with the Wasteland remaster.
I guess you're correct. Personally I don't mind anymore, really. After such a long and fruitless wait for Mac versions I have already moved on and totally lost interest in both BT4 and the BT-Remaster.

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Post by Drool » June 2nd, 2019, 11:30 am

Krome is still working on BT-Remaster. I got an update on it just the other day. And a Mac/Linux release, as has been repeatedly said, is not their decision. They're the developer; that's a publisher decision.
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Post by phimseto » June 7th, 2019, 3:13 pm

Per the latest BT4 backer update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/in ... ts/2530365), a Mac version is on the way. We won't be doing a Linux-specific version.

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Post by shmerl » June 7th, 2019, 3:26 pm

phimseto wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 3:13 pm
Per the latest BT4 backer update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/in ... ts/2530365), a Mac version is on the way. We won't be doing a Linux-specific version.
Why not? It's not supposed to be hard really. It's annoying you are excluding Linux users especially when it's so trivial to develop. After all, it's Unity of all things. You (or rather Krome) can find some community developers who can do it for you.

Running it in Wine is a suboptimal method and is used only as a workaround when developers can't make a proper Linux version. It also in case of the remasters has a few issues currently.

See: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/issues/561

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Post by Wintermute_of_Cof » June 7th, 2019, 4:13 pm

phimseto wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 3:13 pm
We won't be doing a Linux-specific version.
I won't be supporting any future inXile crowdfunding efforts. You could have just told us you didn't want to support Linux before you took our money instead of giving us the run around for years.

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Post by shmerl » June 7th, 2019, 4:16 pm

Wintermute_of_Cof wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 4:13 pm
I won't be supporting any future inXile crowdfunding efforts.
I doubt there will be any, since MS owns the studio now. I'm more curious regarding their future Linux releases. With MS at the head, I have my doubts we'll see anything for Linux from inXile in the future, but who knows. If MS claim they changed for the better, we'll have to see that backed by something real.

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Post by Drool » June 7th, 2019, 4:19 pm

Wintermute_of_Cof wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 4:13 pm
phimseto wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 3:13 pm
We won't be doing a Linux-specific version.
I won't be supporting any future inXile crowdfunding efforts. You could have just told us you didn't want to support Linux before you took our money instead of giving us the run around for years.
They're still doing Linux for BT4, which is what they crowdfunded money for.
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Post by kilobug » June 8th, 2019, 12:03 am

phimseto wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 3:13 pm
Per the latest BT4 backer update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/in ... ts/2530365), a Mac version is on the way. We won't be doing a Linux-specific version.
As a Linux user I'm really disappointed, especially since when using a cross-platform engine, and already doing one port, a second one wouldn't be so hard. WIne is _not_ a viable, long-term, stable solution, but a quirky, lossy method to play a game with no native version.

But I guess that was to be expected with the MS buyout... :(

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Post by Wintermute_of_Cof » June 8th, 2019, 1:57 am

Drool wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 4:19 pm
They're still doing Linux for BT4, which is what they crowdfunded money for.
They're still 18 months late on that.

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Post by Janichsan » June 8th, 2019, 7:29 am

shmerl wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 3:26 pm
Why not?
Because Proton.

Quote from the newsletter:
Since launch, we’ve seen that Linux users have been able to play the game with minimal fuss, using methods like Steam’s Proton service.
Translated: "What do you Linux freaks want? You already can play the game. You don't need a native version."

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Post by Sermon » June 8th, 2019, 10:47 am

phimseto wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 3:13 pm
Per the latest BT4 backer update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/in ... ts/2530365), a Mac version is on the way. We won't be doing a Linux-specific version.
Thanks for the info! It is much appreciated!

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Post by Drool » June 8th, 2019, 2:27 pm

Wintermute_of_Cof wrote:
June 8th, 2019, 1:57 am
Drool wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 4:19 pm
They're still doing Linux for BT4, which is what they crowdfunded money for.
They're still 18 months late on that.
No argument there. But there's a difference between a delay (even a massive one) and a bait-and-switch.
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Post by astrobryguy » June 10th, 2019, 8:38 am

Glad to hear that the BT Remaster will be coming to Mac (and sorry to hear it won't be coming to Linux natively).

Have inXile and Krome considered iOS and Android for the BT remasters? I would love (and would gladly purchase again) to have the BT remasters on my iPhone/iPad, especially with cloud saves so I could continue a game from my laptop to my mobile device. Silversword, a BT-inspired game, is one of my favorite "old-school" RPGs on iOS. The BT remasters would be awesome.

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Post by shmerl » June 10th, 2019, 9:39 pm

Janichsan wrote:
June 8th, 2019, 7:29 am
Because Proton.
That's a poor excuse, considering how easy it is to release. See above.

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Post by vv221 » June 12th, 2019, 9:50 am

phimseto wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 3:13 pm
Per the latest BT4 backer update (…) We won't be doing a Linux-specific version.
Then I won’t play it.
I don’t care about WINE support, no native version means I’m not wanted as a player for this remasters.

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Post by shmerl » June 12th, 2019, 12:53 pm

vv221 wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 9:50 am
phimseto wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 3:13 pm
Per the latest BT4 backer update (…) We won't be doing a Linux-specific version.
Then I won’t play it.
I don’t care about WINE support, no native version means I’m not wanted as a player for this remasters.
Things will probably only go downhill, now that Phil Spencer is always looming on the horizon.

However, we already got the trilogy for free as backers, so I don't mind setting up a Wine prefix for it. But I'm still annoyed inXile and Krome couldn't do such a trivial thing here as a proper Linux release of a Unity game, they are already releasing for macOS... It's a bad gesture toward Linux gamers.

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Post by Danathar » August 13th, 2019, 12:04 pm

phimseto wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 3:13 pm
Per the latest BT4 backer update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/in ... ts/2530365), a Mac version is on the way. We won't be doing a Linux-specific version.
Thanks for the clarification. Sad no Linux version, but I appreciate the up front statement.

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Post by fewerlaws » August 14th, 2019, 2:10 pm

I would love a linux version. The Linux version of Baldur's Gate EE works better than the Windows version on the same hardware.

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