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Weapon model design suggestions & inspiration

Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:20 am

WL2 weapon design made a lot of fairly safe choices by sticking to commonly known real world examples: M1/M14, M4/M16, G3/HK33/G41, FAMAS, AK47, AUG, FAL,...

However, the real world contains a lot of interesting less commonly known guns which could be used as a design reference or inspiration for modeling. It could add some flavour to go off the beaten path as some of them basically breathe post-apoc feel. Some guns were designed to be easily produced at a low cost and would be perfect for guns supposedly built after the apocalypse. But obviously the older pre-apoc guns would be more prized due to being more accurate (while being harder to maintain). There's a lot of design choices to play with here, and it's a bit too boring to get into them without actually knowing what InXile has in mind.

But I started this thread mostly to show different visual styles which can be used as an inspiration for the new gun design in WL3. I'll be updating this thread in the future. If you want to join in, please do but keep things structured. But without further ado:

Name: Leader Dynamics T2 MK5
Type: Assault rifle (conventional layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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Simple to build with a relatively primitive machine shop & simple to operate.

Info:
https://www.forgottenweapons.com/rifles ... -arms-sac/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_Dy ... ies_T2_MK5
http://world.guns.ru/civil/austr/leader_sar-e.html
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Re: Weapon model design suggestions & inspiration

Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:20 am

Name: TRW LMR ("Low Maintenance Rifle")
Type: Assault rifle (bullpup layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: Box magazine, side feed

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Design the most mechanically simple assault rifle you can think of and ensure that it requires very little maintenance to keep running. Not ergonomic nor extremely accurate by any means, but easy to make & keep in working condition.

Info:
https://www.forgottenweapons.com/trw-lo ... nce-rifle/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRW_Low_Maintenance_Rifle
http://world.guns.ru/assault/usa/trw-lmr-e.html
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Re: Weapon model design suggestions & inspiration

Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:24 am

Name: Stoner 63 MG
Type: Machine gun (conventional layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: belt fed, side feed

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Notes:
"Light", versatile, retro maching gun.

Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_63
http://world.guns.ru/machine/usa/stoner-63-e.html
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Re: Weapon model design suggestions & inspiration

Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:28 am

Name: STK Ultimax
Type: Machine gun (conventional layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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This LMG uses a "continuous recoil" system which lowers felt recoil significantly and makes it one of the most accurate machineguns in the field. However it has a fairly low rate of fire.
It uses (drum) magazines instead of belts and can use box magazines if necessary.

Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimax_100
http://world.guns.ru/machine/sing/stk-u ... 100-e.html
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Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:31 am

Name: Madsen LAR
Type: Assault rifle (conventional layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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Weird design for its time. Never popular, but visually appealing and strange.

Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madsen_LAR
http://world.guns.ru/assault/dk/madsen-lar-e.html
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Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:35 am

Name: Stoner 63 Carbine
Type: Assault rifle (conventional layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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Related to the Stoner 63 MG and has some of the same parts. The Robinson Armament M96 looks a lot alike, but is internally very different.

Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_63
http://world.guns.ru/assault/usa/stoner-63-e.html
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Re: Weapon model design suggestions & inspiration

Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:39 am

Name: Beretta AR 70/90
Type: Assault rifle (conventional layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_AR70/90
http://world.guns.ru/assault/it/beretta ... 090-e.html
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Re: Weapon model design suggestions & inspiration

Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:44 am

Name: Colt ACR
Type: Assault rifle (conventional layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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Notes:
Looks like an AR15? But don't be mistaken, this thing is from the ACR project. It shoots two bullets from a single cartridge instead of one. The result is lower damage per shot, and lower accuracy, but they hoped to get more hit probability out of it.

Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_ACR
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Re: Weapon model design suggestions & inspiration

Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:50 am

Name: SR-3 / SR-3M "Vikhr"
Type: Assault rifle (conventional layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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Designed to be tiny in size & easy to suppress. Range is limited, but it is downright lethal within 250m.
With the top folding stock, it cannot mount optics easily. A sidefolding stock version does exist.

Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-3_Vikhr
http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/cp-3-c ... tex-e.html
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Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:55 am

Name: LAPA FA-03
Type: Assault rifle (bullpup layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAPA_FA-03
http://world.guns.ru/assault/braz/lapa-fa-03-e.html
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Post by SuAside » October 11th, 2016, 9:59 am

Name: Interdynamics MKR
Type: Assault rifle (bullpup layout)
Action: Select fire
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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Super weird ammo design, but it enabled the weird 50 round magazine to work.

Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdynamics_MKR
http://world.guns.ru/assault/swed/inter ... mkr-e.html
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Re: Weapon model design suggestions & inspiration

Post by Wagner235 » October 11th, 2016, 4:05 pm

My favorite goes for "Knife-Gun"
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M1989A1 NATO ASSAULT RIFLE

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Re: Weapon model design suggestions & inspiration

Post by imbigdickblack » October 11th, 2016, 8:13 pm

put the M2 in the game as .50 this time but make it only able to be handheld by robots or a guy with 10+ strength
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Post by SuAside » October 12th, 2016, 12:09 pm

Name: Winchester Liberator
Type: 4 barreled shotgun
Action: Semi
Feed: Break action

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Heavy hitting short range weapon so easy to use even a 6 year old could figure it out.

Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Liberator
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Post by SuAside » October 12th, 2016, 12:15 pm

Name: MAG-7
Type: Shotgun
Action: Pump
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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Note:
Shoots shortened 12 gauge shotgun shells, but might be useful as an energy weapon inspiration?

Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG-7
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/safr/mag-7-e.html
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Post by SuAside » October 12th, 2016, 12:20 pm

Name: Neostead
Type: Shotgun
Action: Pump
Feed: Dual tube magazine (6+6), top loading

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Info:
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/safr/neostead-e.html
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Post by SuAside » October 12th, 2016, 12:23 pm

Name: Valtro PM-5
Type: Shotgun
Action: Pump
Feed: Box magazine, bottom feed

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Info:
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/it/valtro-pm-5-e.html
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Post by SuAside » October 12th, 2016, 12:29 pm

Name: UTAS UTS-15
Type: Shotgun
Action: Pump
Feed: Dual tube magazine (7+7)

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(next to Keltec KSG)

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Might be useful as an energy weapon inspiration?

Info:
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/tr/shotgun ... -15-e.html
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Re: Weapon model design suggestions & inspiration

Post by Kimotei » June 14th, 2017, 12:46 pm

This shotgun is super cool, and aparently the worlds fastest:
Fostech Origin 12

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