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How do you get past the Abykos in the Buried Crossroads without combat?

Posted: April 14th, 2017, 7:51 am
by Valrog
Every encounter in Torment:Tides of Numenera has a solution that doesn't require combat.

I focused the mirrors on the creatures to reveal the Abykos. They want something to eat.

I have only 3 dialogue options at this point:

"Stay back. I have no food for you here."

"I don't want to hurt you. Return to your realm."

"Leave this place or die."

If I don't give them something to eat, they attack and I have to kill them. As I don't have anything to offer them, I can't avoid combat.

What can I offer them to avoid combat?

Re: How do you get past the Abykos in the Buried Crossroads without combat?

Posted: April 14th, 2017, 1:10 pm
by jsaving
Valrog wrote:
April 14th, 2017, 7:51 am
Every encounter in Torment:Tides of Numenera has a solution that doesn't require combat.
That would be neat but can anyone confirm it is true in the final version of the game? Anyway, I too wanted to solve this one without combat but couldn't find anything in Sagus Cliffs that the abykos would accept as food.

Re: How do you get past the Abykos in the Buried Crossroads without combat?

Posted: April 15th, 2017, 3:33 am
by Hawke64
Well, you don't have to summon Abykos (the two/three useful things to get from the mirror are the Bronze Sphere, +1 to Intellect, and teleport to Circus Minor). Answering the question, they want sticha eggs (heard it on the Steam forum, but haven't checked personally).

Re: How do you get past the Abykos in the Buried Crossroads without combat?

Posted: April 15th, 2017, 2:34 pm
by Valrog
Hawke64 wrote:
April 15th, 2017, 3:33 am
Well, you don't have to summon Abykos (the two/three useful things to get from the mirror are the Bronze Sphere, +1 to Intellect, and teleport to Circus Minor). Answering the question, they want sticha eggs (heard it on the Steam forum, but haven't checked personally).
If that's true, it seems like a serious mismatch. In the peaceful path, you don't steal the sticha eggs, but use diplomacy to resolve the problem. A character that wants to avoid killing the abykos wouldn't have invaded the stichas' home and stolen their eggs to blackmail them.

That's, of course, unless there's a peaceful way to get the eggs (hiding and stealing them). But stealing their eggs and feeding them to the abykos still seems seriously out-of-character for the pacifist path.

Re: How do you get past the Abykos in the Buried Crossroads without combat?

Posted: April 16th, 2017, 12:28 am
by kilobug
Valrog wrote:
April 15th, 2017, 2:34 pm
That's, of course, unless there's a peaceful way to get the eggs (hiding and stealing them). But stealing their eggs and feeding them to the abykos still seems seriously out-of-character for the pacifist path.
But wouldn't be summoning the abykos out-of-character too ? If you want to be a pacifist, part of it is knowing when not to look for trouble.

Re: How do you get past the Abykos in the Buried Crossroads without combat?

Posted: April 26th, 2017, 9:51 am
by Valrog
You don't "summon" the Abykos. When you focus the mirror on them, they spawn. You don't know in advance what will happen.

Re: How do you get past the Abykos in the Buried Crossroads without combat?

Posted: April 27th, 2017, 9:43 am
by Hawke64
There's a warning, if you have Anamnesis at Trained level or higher, something saying that the mirrors may be dangerous.