Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Vault_13 » October 1st, 2014, 1:17 am

Where exactly can I find her?

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Exogorth » October 1st, 2014, 1:39 am

She spawns right outside the entrance to the bunker/lab if you meet the requirements.

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Vault_13 » October 1st, 2014, 2:00 am

And if I've left the village and will come back later will she be there?

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by diivil » October 1st, 2014, 2:40 am

Vault_13 wrote:And if I've left the village and will come back later will she be there?
People are getting her to appear by going to the world map and then back so I would assume she will be there as long as you have enough charisma.

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Drool » October 1st, 2014, 10:16 pm

diivil wrote:People are getting her to appear by going to the world map and then back so I would assume she will be there as long as you have enough charisma.
I'll confirm that.

I killed the first wave of infected in the village, and killed almost all of the infected in the facility. Further, I even mentioned to Jan that I killed almost everything, but she basically said "shit happens". When I exited the facility, Pizepi wasn't there. I left to the world map and re-entered, she was there, waiting for me.

Party charisma (not counting trinkets or Puppies!) was mid-to-high 20s.
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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by MrMoe » October 3rd, 2014, 3:02 am

Just encountered her with 18 + 3 Charisma (via collars)
Killed the one group I had to underground, spared the rest. Promised not to tell.

As I went to the surface, she already waited for me :)

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by sullie » October 3rd, 2014, 8:05 am

When would be the ideal time to try to recruit her on a seasoned or SJ run? I plan to use Rose, Piz, and one of scotch/ralphy/chisel

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Exogorth » October 3rd, 2014, 11:09 am

As soon as you feel you can reasonably make/survive the attempt. You can either try the "sprinter" approach, detailed in an earlier post, or attempt to go the back way which requires a raft of mid-level skill checks.

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by sullie » October 3rd, 2014, 11:42 am

Anyone tried zoning to the world map, but instead of coming back, just go about continuing your game, and then go back to Darwin sometime later?

Maybe you can pick her up at any time before you leave Arizona.

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Doctor Feh » October 3rd, 2014, 12:11 pm

sullie wrote:When would be the ideal time to try to recruit her on a seasoned or SJ run? I plan to use Rose, Piz, and one of scotch/ralphy/chisel
She starts out at level 16 so I personally think it's okay to wait a bit. I went Radio Tower -> Highpool -> (destroyed) Ag Center -> Ranger Citadel -> Rail Nomads -> Darwin (with a few side stops) and that seemed to work out well, I was able to get through all of Darwin without too much difficulty and recruit her.

Obviously if you want Rose you'll have to choose Ag Center over Highpool but I figure the XP and loot opportunites are about the same.

I refuse to call her Pizepi Joren, though. With those pigtails she is Pizepi Longstocking. If you say it fast it's funny.

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Drool » October 3rd, 2014, 2:34 pm

Doctor Feh wrote:I was able to get through all of Darwin without too much difficulty and recruit her.
Honestly, the toughest thing is the turrents, but with how they're spaced, you can basically manage them one at a time. I didn't have too much trouble with it; the infected aren't much of a threat.
I refuse to call her Pizepi Joren, though. With those pigtails she is Pizepi Longstocking. If you say it fast it's funny.
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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Kasseopea » October 4th, 2014, 9:13 am

My party of 6 totals at 35 Charisma and she wasnt there. Killed no mutants, promised not to tell. The game is buggy.

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Drool » October 4th, 2014, 1:43 pm

Try leaving Darwin and then going back in.
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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by rumpelstilskin » October 5th, 2014, 12:04 pm

I think it's just purely random, really. Not even sure the probability is modified by anything you do. On my first try I killed all zombies, then Jan, and she appeared. Then I reloaded, went out, and she wasn't there. Tried repeating several times - still nothing. Then I reloaded before talking to Jan, let her live, and Pizepi was there.

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Cipher » October 5th, 2014, 6:45 pm

Had 23 Charisma , didn't kill a single mutant and said to Vargas , Thrasher and Doc that nobody lives inside Darwin Village. It worked

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by seanlo » October 6th, 2014, 3:04 am

Yes you may leave the village, come back after some time. As long as you zone in with 22 charisma from the world map, she will spawn.

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by Vault_13 » October 6th, 2014, 3:12 am

I have successfully recruited her, thanks for the tips. Though I've managed to do this easier, as I recruited a guy whose name is Dan Q (can be found in Titan's Canyon... or at least what have left from it after a little... accident). He's got Charisma 9. Even though most of my 4 original characters had Charisma 1, the other 3 I recruited had at least 3, so I had to wear just two collars just in case and that worked just fine.

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by panisch » October 6th, 2014, 7:26 am

ehrgeix wrote:Hm, I recruited her with 20 charisma, 100% sure, tested multiple times etc.
Are you sure it was 20 and not 21 CHA you had?

I did a few tests yesterday during my pizepi recruitings, just gonna share my results:
1. I disarmed the alarm before the machine thingy and didnt kill a single infected inside.
2. I triggered the alarm and killed only the infecteds that were attracted by it.
3. I made a savegame just before the alarm door + one infront of the ladder just before going outside of the bunker before pizepi should appear, each time i reached there with certain conditions.
4. I tried with 20 base CHA, i tried with 20 base CHA + 1 collar, i tried with 21 base CHA.


CONDITIONS:

These conditions were the same on every of my attempts:
- outside: killed first group of infecteds, then blew the door to skip the 2nd
- told jan not to tell anyone
- i went thrrough the vent and got night terror

Now here is were it begins to differ:

20 CHA=(8+1+1+1)+4+3+2 (ralphy+rose+chisel)
- alarm disarmed and/or triggered
-> nothing: i reloaded about 10 times each, couldnt get her to spawn

21 CHA=(8+1+1+1)+4+3+2 (ralphy+rose+chisel) +1 dog collar
- alarm disarmed and/or triggered
-> nothing: i reloaded about 10 times each, couldnt get her to spawn

21 CHA=(9+1+1+1)+4+3+2 (ralphy+rose+chisel) NO dog collar
- alarm disarmed and/or triggered
-> worked: she did not always spawn but i only had to reload about 2-3 times to get her to appear again
(i reloaded even after she already spawned, for testing reasons)
- got the same results from the alarm disarmed- and alarm triggered savegame

i did not have melons at that time so i cant say anything about them working or not.

So yeah, i went with triggering the alarm because: i didnt learn alarm disarming then (i had spare pts stacked up before i went into darwin) + killing infecteds gives alot of exp. Next time i reach there i might even consider wiping out the whole bunker since it doesnt seem to matter when it comes to recruiting pizepi. Those infecteds exp are just amazing considering they are slow as f*** and easy to kill, even on SJ.

Another thing i wanna add is how i opened the door before the Night Terror room with the 3 turrets in it:
I opened all the other doors with either computer science or password, but that door apperantly requires lockpicking which i didnt have (hovering over with brute force or any other skill indicated that it didnt work, not even a 0% chance)
This is for SJ so it might differ on other difficulties:
- TNT: ineffective
- Mangler: ineffective
- Sabot Rocket: door open (iirc it actually showed 150 damage on the door)

So you dont need lockpicking or alarm disarming.

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by rumpelstilskin » October 6th, 2014, 7:37 am

It all looks like tell-tale symptoms of a 10-20% purely random event actually. Seemingly not happening, until you change something - and it does!

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Re: Guide to recruiting Pizepi Joren (Darwin village)

Post by ehrgeix » October 6th, 2014, 7:53 am

panisch wrote:
ehrgeix wrote:Hm, I recruited her with 20 charisma, 100% sure, tested multiple times etc.
Are you sure it was 20 and not 21 CHA you had?
Yep, 100%.

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