Your ending (endgame spoilers)

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Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by migelpig » March 5th, 2017, 1:55 pm

Blue/Gold Tide:

I went with restoring life to the daughter of the Changing God (So in the end I fulfilled the the ultimate goal of my "father")

- Rhin stayed with me till the end.
- Callistege ascended into the datasphere.
- Matkina endured and in enduring grew stronger.

The other companions were only in my party for quest reasons.

(This thread is purely for posting your ending)

What was your ending?

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by DaveTheArakin » March 6th, 2017, 1:45 am

Gold tide.

My castoff was a very compassionate man who wanted to leave his mark in the world by helping people. He restored the Changing God's daughter to life at the cost of his own and the rest of the castoffs in order to end their kind's trouble.

- Rhin was send home and became an adventurer.
- Alligern found his family again.
- Matkina is gone.

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by Poganin » March 6th, 2017, 2:05 am

Blue/Gold Tide. Healers all over resolved to follow my Castoff's example.

He left things as they are, with Sorrow still on the loose and eventually coming for the individual castoffs.
- Callistege ascended
- Rhin went home and became an adventurer
- Tybir returned to the village he burned to the ground and lived out the rest of his life as its protector
- Matkina became the new Memovira

- The mutant boy whose name I forget became a scholar, reading everything and undertaking any task put before him, and was considered to succeed Min as the head of the Order of Truth
- The little robots birthed by the broken Foreman spread all over Sagus and made repairs to it, and even added new parts to themselves
- Maralel went back to Miel Avest to rebuild it

That's the parts I remember off the top of my head.

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by Silke » March 6th, 2017, 2:18 am

Blue/Gold Tide:

I made the deal to let everything be for a while with the Sorrow, the Castoffs could go on with their lives in peace for a while until he came for them.

- I let Rhin go home to her real family. She would never forget the Last Castoff.
- Callistege ascended into the datasphere.
- Matkina claimed the Bloom only long enough to restore control and then lived in peace, when the Sorrow came to claim her she greeted it as a friend.
  • Tybir spiralled into crap and was finally executed.
  • Aligern discovered how to free his family and friends etc. Buried in Ormen, had his name scratched into the Valley of Dead Heroes.
  • Erritis set off on his own, claiming artifacts.. chasing rumors until he collapsed in a field after endless adventuring, the voices went dormant.
  • Piquo excelled in the Order of Truth.
  • Nym got a job as an artist, Zebb found work in the underbelly with the foremen. Their father returned from the Bloom finally, proud of his childrens accomplishments, they lived a hard but joyful life together.
  • The crippled construct who I convinced not to kill himself by creating children in the end got help by Tarnish who could hear the torment in his voice, they were successful on his ninety-first birthday.
  • The sticha had a rough journey to their new home, but flourished there for a long time.
  • The surviving memorialists in the valley rebuilt the place, cleaning up all the blood. They never got rid of the smell however.
  • Coty worked hard and in the end became a sought after carpenter and engraver, leaving the Bloom and setting up shop in Circus Minor.
  • Artaglio and his troop remained in Chiurgeon's Slump, free from the Maw he became more jovial. Drank and extorted less - though he still extorts some. "A man's gotta make a living somehow".
  • Maralel returned to the ruins of Miel Avest, looking with regret on the destruction she had wrought. She marched forward and got to work.

I was remembered for my wisdom and selflessness. Inspiring people to make the world a better place etc.

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by Lord of Riva » March 6th, 2017, 4:17 am

Also Gold/Blue

and honestly you will end up like that if you dont behave like a total psycho. I had A LOT of red tide influence but its nearly impossible to not have those two as the dominant tides (alone having Rhin is basically dominant gold alone)

Also let the status quo remain so that all could live freely until their time had come.

Erritis was cured from the voices and went back to farming.

Aligern rescued his family

Rhin became an adventurer

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by natzy » March 6th, 2017, 4:54 am

Gold / Blue (damn, talking about not having the same story 2 players...)

I did not have Rhin so he never got home...

Aligern recued his familty althought I did not have him with me

Tybir got executed;

And the rest I didn't care like I didn't feel anything for any of the companions.
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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by Abdullah » March 7th, 2017, 4:52 am

Gold/Silver

I killed Sorrow. Madness spreads among the world, but my kind survives.

Matkina returned to Kholn and made a community

Aligern found his family

Tybir met his death

Erritis died eventually during AN ADVENTURE

Artaglio's right hand takes control of irregulars

Maralel died and Bloom turned into a battlefield

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by mavoras » March 10th, 2017, 11:39 am

Blue/Silver:

I got the Changing God's full memories from the Specter by convincing I would make a better Changing God than it.

These memories probably convinced me that the best option would be to merge all the castoffs to my character :).

Rhin stayed with me and Callistege ascended to the data sphere.

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by Agiel » March 10th, 2017, 5:38 pm

I went with the "everything stays the same" ending from the Sorrow.

I have a question: Does Matkina end badly no matter what if you take her along to the end and you get the above ending? It seemed to imply that she got munched on by the Bloom, or she gets offed by the Sorrow on her way to the Oasis.

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by Maerd » March 10th, 2017, 7:46 pm

Gold/Blue

Tides in general have a tendency to be biased into blue and gold categories. If you ask questions it makes you blue, if you take quests and want to solve it a polite way it makes you gold (and silver if selfish). Consequently, if you like RPGs you're Blue/Gold ('paladin' play style) or Blue/Silver (if you prefer 'evil' play stile).

"Everything stays the same" is the only reasonable options, which I chose. Another only reasonable option is "merge everyone into yourself" for blue/silver types. All other options are irrational and made for the sake of false sense of choice.

P.S. Talking Sorrow was extremely disappointing, because his reasoning is a bunch of low-IQ "science-is-bad" tropes with hypocritical patronizing attitude.

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by Hawke64 » March 18th, 2017, 12:09 pm

Blue/Gold.
At first I destroyed the Sorrow, because reasons (such as doubts if it tells me the truth and general detest of something considering a genocide as a "wise choice"). Then reloaded and chose to keep things as they were.
Endings for factions and individuals:
- Piquo became an Aeon Priest;
- The Fifth Eye patrons' minds faded and only Ziobe left;
- New constructs were trained under Master Foreman;
- The sticha forged a new home for themselves;
- The Endless Gate were closed, the Memorialists were rebuilding;
- The Bloom was in chaos;
- Coty became a carpenter;
- Artaglio and his troops protected the Slump.
Agiel wrote:I went with the "everything stays the same" ending from the Sorrow.

I have a question: Does Matkina end badly no matter what if you take her along to the end and you get the above ending? It seemed to imply that she got munched on by the Bloom, or she gets offed by the Sorrow on her way to the Oasis.
You need to talk to the ghost of the previous Memovira, while Matkina is in the party, I think.

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by Aotrs Commander » March 19th, 2017, 7:10 pm

Gold/Blue (seems like that's a common one...!)

I think my only real critism of the game was the ending. I didn't particularly find any one the choices (unline with PS:T) to be particulary satisfying - and actually skimmed through all of them, before settling on actually absrobing all the cast-off personally as the least bad option.

Rhin went home, came back badarse and went back home to be, presumably,m more basarse.

Callistege... I... think Callistege sort of maybe hooked up kinda with the Last Castoff (maybe?) after I convinced her to become back to mortal. It was kinda the way she spent most of th game telling me she adored me, and tha and... so yeah.

Tybir got a sort of happy ending, at least, as he went back to the vilager and redeemded himself.

Otherwise, this:
Silke wrote:
  • Aligern discovered how to free his family and friends etc. Buried in Ormen, had his name scratched into the Valley of Dead Heroes.
  • Erritis set off on his own, claiming artifacts.. chasing rumors until he collapsed in a field after endless adventuring, the voices went dormant.
  • Nym got a job as an artist, Zebb found work in the underbelly with the foremen. Their father returned from the Bloom finally, proud of his childrens accomplishments, they lived a hard but joyful life together.
  • The crippled construct who I convinced not to kill himself by creating children in the end got help by Tarnish who could hear the torment in his voice, they were successful on his ninety-first birthday.
  • The surviving memorialists in the valley rebuilt the place, cleaning up all the blood. They never got rid of the smell however.
  • Artaglio and his troop remained in Chiurgeon's Slump, free from the Maw he became more jovial.

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by Eschwenke » December 22nd, 2017, 9:07 pm

I ended up Blue/Gold like most others, but I was really trying to both play as myself and also try to get blue/indigo. Unfortunately, my interpretation of what indigo should be seems to be different from that of the writers, because I disliked the indigo options frequently. In the end I ended up killing the Sorrow with the indigo justification that it had already killed off a world and might do even worse in the future. I then got a one paragraph ending and was annoyed, thinking the ending stretch goals weren’t fulfilled and feeling ripped off. Then I came here and find that I just need to pick a different option. I’m still annoyed, however; I should have gotten a full ending for that.

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Re: Your ending (endgame spoilers)

Post by janos666 » July 17th, 2018, 6:51 pm

I refused The Sorrow's offers, thus had to try and kill it. All remaining (*) castoffs walked the lands of madness. [*I am not sure how many have permanently died earlier during the game but probably just the suicidal/martyr woman and may be The First?]
I saw this option as an "all or nothing" gamble and I initially felt like I lost (though not really). I took the risk because I didn't feel like succumbing to a "lesser evil" or "least bad" option (unless absolutely necessary) and I didn't trust in anything or anybody during the game, especially not the words of The Sorrow in this setting (I expected to be "cheated", that most or all other choices will have some unexpected ill side-effects or just outright lead to to a "critical failure" ending like a lost "psychic battle"). The Sorrow suddenly and drastically changed it's behavior (indicating it might felt threatened and tried to pull an "all or nothing gamble" on it's own), so I figured it's time to switch from defense to attack and have a slight chance walking away as Changing God II, so to speak (have everything he had and more) and then use the newfound powers/facilities (something like a more direct access to the Tides) to make things at least as good as The Sorrow's best offer or hopefully even better. And honestly, I also wanted a shot at living out a fantasy of ascending to virtual godhood (not just immortality but some kind and extent of omnipotence), the magnified version of Callistige's dream (but then try to be a true Gold+Blue deity).

Even though I technically double-crossed myself in the expectation of a trap, I think that's what helped me to find an answer to the "what does one life matter?" theme question. Aafter learning the function of the resonance chamber, my goal was to replace the Changing God and walk away immortal with all the other castoffs integrated and the Sorrow neutralized (though I obviously intended to keep this as a secret until the last moment). [Plan B was improvisation for simple survival on any terms, preferably still immortal.]
Now with spoiler-reading, I know that was factually possible. But I think I changed my mind in the last moment because my answer to the theme question was something like this:

"By default, one life is worth nothing, only my life matters everything. Yet my life is still worthless without the others." (read: the other castoffs, the little community, my family so to speak, my kind, my species, my tribe ... hard to find a nice word which fits the meaning of the real life equivalent of this ... which I wasn't even really an integral part of so far, but still... I didn't want to be alone forever, the only immortal on the world with no power to create another or even adapt itself to future other races with new bodies). I am not proud of myself for this (I consider it a weakness) but I admit it (at least in the context of the game :P).

I think that's what really prompted me to refuse the options where "the others" don't walk away as their own persons and free of terror. My selfishness, the fear of being forever alone was the motivation which didn't allow me to kill or assimilate the castoffs. And I didn't want anybody (including myself) to be constantly threatened by The Sorrow. That's why I had to gamble. And honestly, with this view in mind, I won the bet (the castoffs were all granted a long life, even me, even if there was no mention of learning anything more about the Tides after getting rid of The Sorrow).



Rhin was the only thing really *tormenting* me during the game. I realized (and was constantly reminded by many people) that it was questionable to drag her through all kinds of possible dangers and horrors (I tried to avoid violence but not at all costs and didn't even think it's possible to finish the game non-violently [I didn't, I just read it in spoilers after finishing the story]) but I did it anyway. At first this choice was based on the hope (fueled by generic presumptions of games in general: "there is always a happy ending") of finding some relatives or at least figuring out her past (and decide about her future based on that info). Although I also realized she was technically a dead weight (especially in violent combat). Later on (probably while in Miel Avest) I started looking at her like an adopted daughter, so stopped caring if she slows me down or not (and cared even less what others had to say about her place in the party). Yet, when she found a way home, I obviously let her go. And it was nice to see her again at the end.

Callistege was the second most interesting but a very mixed person. I wasn't sure if I liked her but I wanted to put her out of the misery in one way or another (yeah, even if that's a "merciful death with honor" rather than becoming some crazy abomination). At some points I almost started to admire her (even up to the point of wishing for a possible "romance" or something) but she always managed to degrade herself in my eyes in unexpected ways. I was completely puzzled by that mental breakdown kind of "I shßt my panties from the sorrow, I hate you for dragging me into this, but I still adore you and want to hold your hand, please take me with you to the next chamber of horrors, so I can complain about your stupidity and ask for a hazard payment bonus before stabbing you in the back from pure love, or something something... evil?". With that, she managed to loose any admiration I had towards her. I decided to play along and keep up the "I love you too, you are my best friend you f'b|ch" game but only to try and manipulating her into helping me. And I considered my help with her ascension as an oversized payment check for her services (I was fine with it but wasn't truly happy for her, I knew she never really cared for me and now definitely won't start).

Tybir was a useful fool (at least useful early in the game) and I cared about all useful companions, so he lived and even found peace (I don't care if he deserved it but I considered he earned my help, so... that's all).

Matkina started out interesting but became progressively boring and even frustrating by the end. The more I learned about her past and motivations, I cared less to learn more. The more I tried to help with her mental issues, the more impossible it started to seem. (My only motivation to tirelessly try helping her was that I believe I am somewhat like her in my real life, even if that means I should knew she was helpless [or at least I will be unable to figure out the solution because then I wouldn't be "me" in my life...]). It almost felt offending to have the option of making her "the one" (I would rather watch the whole world burn to be honest).

Erritis died. I believed him to be way beyond help and useless, so he didn't happen to be with me in the right moment to get "fixed".

I helped Aligern find his family. I picked and kept Cal around, so I didn't knew him but he was lucky enough not having to be in the active party to advance his quest, so why not...? He thought Changing God owned him something and I guess I was the closest one to repay that debt. + He was funny during the first conversation ("That's exactly the kind of thing HE [CG] would say!" :D).

Piquo -> Order of Truth
sticha -> yummy new home
forman -> suicide adjourned
lost father in the bloom -> escaped
Artaglio -> eaten (I am not proud of that but I considered that as the "lesser evil", since he looked suicidal anyway)
memorialists -> I missed the opportunity to visit the Gate (I was genuinely curious), I figured I shall return after Avest, but...
crazy incestuous space station people -> rescued
fighting robot in the Bloom -> challenged and killed for "sport"
Fifth Eye -> happy ending
Ooom -> ? I think he was OK (didn't get mad at me for being a bad student and presumably survived)

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