
sear, this is cruel.
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Yes, still the Mods stormed in and tried to lay rest to some of the questions we've all been so concerned with. If this thread was titled "How many companions are in the game?" I'd agree with you. This thread is specifically about The Toy. So when a mod comes in and subtly suggest a reduction in companions in a thread asking about a specific companion, I feel it is safe to start saying goodbye to The Toy.D-D wrote:Thank you that's right!sparkee666 wrote:I read the Sear post, but didn't read the removal of the toy. Where was it said the toy has been removed?
Secret companions are normals for these games, maybe secret companion was cut and we have 9 left. Or cut from 9 to 8 and Oom and Riastad are still there. If a known companion was removed, they would say their name - they didn't say names, so it's likely secret companion that was removed...sear wrote:Hi guys,
The companion roster has been slightly reduced from our initial plans.
Sear isn't a mod. He is an employee of InXile.anonymous6059 wrote: Yes, still the Mods stormed in and tried to lay rest to some of the questions we've all been so concerned with. If this thread was titled "How many companions are in the game?" I'd agree with you. This thread is specifically about The Toy. So when a mod comes in and subtly suggest a reduction in companions in a thread asking about a specific companion, I feel it is safe to start saying goodbye to The Toy.
My money would be on financial reasons rather than 'not serving the game' - it was probably the most interesting character idea in any of the IE games since torment itself, and the one that best represented the numenera setting. It sounds like a very difficult character to write into the game, and my guess is the amount of work/reactivity required looked like too much in the way of resources and time. The problem there, of course, is that you don't get to choose these things once you've built a crowdfunding campaign against us. We were promised.... well, oom. Post-facto renegs on stretch goals, especially ones that only come into light at the very last moment via third parties and deduction, do not make the company or the crowd-funding practice itself look good because they are a breach of trust.Jernaugh wrote: With regard to the stretch goals not being achieved, I think it all depends on what the reasons behind it were. Did they feel it didn't serve what the game turned out being? You can take issue with the failure regardless of the reason, but I value a company that is willing to make clear what went wrong and thereby show willingness to address such things in the future.
the worst that could happen would be people being pleasantry surprised, what exactly is the problem here?sparkee666 wrote:Even though it has been implied there still is no evidence of the toy being cut.
The thread reads that it has been cut definitely. I have even read in another thread from an active poster that the toy has been cut, so the alternative fact about the toy is beginning to spread, even though there has been no evidence confirming the cut companion.
I do understand why someone would want to buffer themselves against possible bad news. but the Toy being cut is still nothing more than a rumor.
1. Sear said that some of the companions have been cut in this thread. A thread asking if The Toy has been cut. It is pretty obvious what he's implying.sparkee666 wrote:Even though it has been implied there still is no evidence of the toy being cut.
The thread reads that it has been cut definitely. I have even read in another thread from an active poster that the toy has been cut, so the alternative fact about the toy is beginning to spread, even though there has been no evidence confirming the cut companion.
I do understand why someone would want to buffer themselves against possible bad news. but the Toy being cut is still nothing more than a rumor.
1. Sear said some companions have been cut he didn't specify which ones. You are creating your own definition and applying it to what he is saying and thus creating false information that can start to propagate.anonymous6059 wrote: 1. Sear said that some of the companions have been cut in this thread. A thread asking if The Toy has been cut. It is pretty obvious what he's implying.
2. No achievements exist for The Toy. The 6 companions that we do know are in the game do have achievements.
3. None of the Artwork for this game includes The Toy. You can find concept art and portraits for the 6 from the beta.
I don't know how many companions will be in the game. Right now its looking like just the six from the beta. We may or may not still get one or two more on release. The Toy is very, very unlikely to be one of them.
I really don't see any reason for not assume it isn't in the game at this point. What reasons do you have to assume it is in the game? Every thing, even the words of the Sear himself, suggest The Toy is gone. I say it is time to say good bye and farewell.
RIP TOY
I agree, when ever I did a hard test I always built up the thought in my mind that I was going to fail, and when I passed I was less uptight.Lord of Riva wrote:the worst that could happen would be people being pleasantry surprised, what exactly is the problem here?
Just... wowsparkee666 wrote:
I do understand why someone would want to buffer themselves against possible bad news. but the Toy being cut is still nothing more than a rumor.
he is logically right, there is still a chance that sear did not actually say that. Still the chance is so small i will see it as a % truncated to 0%Grotesque wrote:Just... wowsparkee666 wrote:
I do understand why someone would want to buffer themselves against possible bad news. but the Toy being cut is still nothing more than a rumor.
sparkee666 wrote: 2. the achievement for the toy is the fourth one at 2 mill
hey come on now that may be a language thingInfinitron wrote:sparkee666 wrote: 2. the achievement for the toy is the fourth one at 2 mill
That is logical, and suggests that they never started making it.sparkee666 wrote:Making the toy would require a huge amount of energy. If they decide to start making it I think it would be cheaper to keep it in the game rather than remove it.
+1, everybody need to have some faith in inXile. If they had cut the toy they would say it openly as soon as they know.sparkee666 wrote:1. Sear said some companions have been cut he didn't specify which ones. You are creating your own definition and applying it to what he is saying and thus creating false information that can start to propagate.anonymous6059 wrote: 1. Sear said that some of the companions have been cut in this thread. A thread asking if The Toy has been cut. It is pretty obvious what he's implying.
2. No achievements exist for The Toy. The 6 companions that we do know are in the game do have achievements.
3. None of the Artwork for this game includes The Toy. You can find concept art and portraits for the 6 from the beta.
I don't know how many companions will be in the game. Right now its looking like just the six from the beta. We may or may not still get one or two more on release. The Toy is very, very unlikely to be one of them.
I really don't see any reason for not assume it isn't in the game at this point. What reasons do you have to assume it is in the game? Every thing, even the words of the Sear himself, suggest The Toy is gone. I say it is time to say good bye and farewell.
RIP TOY
2. the achievement for the toy is the fourth one at 2 mill
3. you are looking into something that doesn't say if the toy is included or excluded from the game. You are reading into the absence of an image from the art book and coming to a conclusion that has never been made officially.
I'm not saying the toy is going to be in the game it could be very possible that it was cut, but to make this claim and push a false narrative is just unnecessarily building up bull-crap that isn't really needed.
I agree, when ever I did a hard test I always built up the thought in my mind that I was going to fail, and when I passed I was less uptight.Lord of Riva wrote:the worst that could happen would be people being pleasantry surprised, what exactly is the problem here?
what is being done here is that there is something that isn't true being floated around as fact which can confuse and aggravate other people.
This is the first time I've ever seen something like this on this forum.
I wasn't referring to the stretch goals, but the trophies that were leaked earlier in this thread.sparkee666 wrote: 2. the achievement for the toy is the fourth one at 2 mill
Yeah that is what upset me the most as well. At least they have finally come out.Jayne Veidt wrote:Wouldn't have minded any of this if inXile were at least honest about it.:/ Slimy, so slimy.
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