Has The Toy companion been cut from the game? ($2M stretch goal)

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Re: Has The Toy companion been cut from the game? ($2M stretch goal)

Post by anonymous6059 » January 26th, 2017, 10:17 am

fairfax wrote:And some of you thought I was making it up. You're welcome, by the way. 8-)
Thank you for bringing this issue to light.

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Re: Has The Toy companion been cut from the game? ($2M stretch goal)

Post by fairfax » January 26th, 2017, 10:23 am

anonymous6059 wrote:
fairfax wrote:And some of you thought I was making it up. You're welcome, by the way. 8-)
Thank you for bringing this issue to light.
;)

And they cut 2, Oom (the Toy) and Riastrad. Not sure if Spectre is an actual companion at some point, but I never saw any sign of another companion in the game's files.

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Re: Has The Toy companion been cut from the game? ($2M stretch goal)

Post by Lord of Riva » January 26th, 2017, 10:24 am

fairfax wrote:And some of you thought I was making it up. You're welcome, by the way. 8-)
And there is still a case to be made on why that is.

But in this case, cheers ;)

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Re: Has The Toy companion been cut from the game? ($2M stretch goal)

Post by Mera » January 26th, 2017, 10:39 am

I mean... Cutting stuff for the reasons you gave is somewhat fine but it's beyond me that you would try to hide that kind of stuff...
What's the final count then? Since the exact number was supposed to be known from the KS, no reason not to tell us. Is the 6 in the beta all you settled on?

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Post by Jernaugh » January 26th, 2017, 10:48 am

Thank you, sear, for the statement. The reasons for the decision are completely understandable and it's laudable that you're considering adding on free-for-backers DLC, although I'm sure there's many considerations that might yet prevent that from happening. I appreciate your taking the time to clear this issue up. I still look forward to statements on the issue of the Techland CE merchandise, the Italian translation and any other Kickstarter promises that will be unfulfilled on day 1, but my faith has been mostly restored that we will hear about these things prior to release. If that happens with similarly clear reasoning to here, I will be satisfied and will likely continue to back you.

I firmly believe that even a broken promise (as dramatic as that sounds) will not alienate too many of your backers if the time is taken to make the situation understandable, as was done here. It's a big project and there was always going to be a need to adapt to changing circumstances along the way. Making that clear to backers will serve you well in the long run. Supporting fan drives to ameliorate the issues (like the Italian translation fundraiser) will do even more, I think. I know that this is also very much crunch time for you guys, so I can see it would be tough to devote time and energy to these issues, but the long term gain should be worth it, I hope. At any rate, once more, thanks for sharing.

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Post by D-D » January 26th, 2017, 11:37 am

The Toy was the only companion I was really looking forward. So sad :(

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Post by Aramintai » January 26th, 2017, 12:02 pm

Mera wrote:I mean... Cutting stuff for the reasons you gave is somewhat fine but it's beyond me that you would try to hide that kind of stuff...
What's the final count then? Since the exact number was supposed to be known from the KS, no reason not to tell us. Is the 6 in the beta all you settled on?
Judging by the PS4 trophy list 6 is all we will get. So 3 others promised in stretch goals were cut.
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Post by Grotesque » January 26th, 2017, 12:42 pm

So nobody is waxing my shaft for a change? Only Fairfax gets all the glory?
Oh... the misery...
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Post by Lix » January 26th, 2017, 12:42 pm

anonymous6059 wrote:Side Request: Is The Specter a Companion? I'd imagine that he is since he has lots of dialogue and helps you fight The Sorrow early in the game.
I posted something about that subject earlier today based on code in the EA files, but the entire thread was deleted by the staff. Hopefully this is a vague enough answer to avoid deletion: "probably not".

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Re: Has The Toy companion been cut from the game? ($2M stretch goal)

Post by Grotesque » January 26th, 2017, 12:51 pm

The funny thing is that it took members from a shunned and blacklisted community by inXile to disclose and put pressure to finally receive an answer in the eleventh hour. I guess not being a lobotomized fanboy pays dividends in the end.
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Post by fairfax » January 26th, 2017, 1:30 pm

Grotesque wrote:So nobody is waxing my shaft for a change? Only Fairfax gets all the glory?
Oh... the misery...
:lol:
Grotesque wrote:The funny thing is that it took members from a shunned and blacklisted community by inXile to disclose and put pressure to finally receive an answer in the eleventh hour. I guess not being a lobotomized fanboy pays dividends in the end.
Codexers saved the day. Our detractors should be thankful. 8-)

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Re: Has The Toy companion been cut from the game? ($2M stretch goal)

Post by sparkee666 » January 26th, 2017, 1:48 pm

Whoever is doing the official TTON WIKI needs to do some house keeping.

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Post by merz » January 26th, 2017, 2:55 pm

part of the reason why kickstarter and other crowdfunding platforms have been struggling as a means of funding for worthwhile undertakings in the recent years has been the increasing distance between campaign goals, promises and their actual fulfillment. throughout that, inxile remained an entity enjoying great confidence and trust of the community that has championed the team in various incarnations and its work for well over a decade. 11th hour revelations of well-defined funding promises do not bode well for the future, nor the cynical attitude of potentially offering the 1st funding stretch goal as dlc at some possible future point. all that after years of delays.

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Post by Firkraag » January 26th, 2017, 3:02 pm

Lord of Riva wrote:Why the Toy? -_-
I believe, tone consistency might be to blame.
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Post by Lix » January 26th, 2017, 3:09 pm

The Toy could potentially have been quite a dark character. It was just "found" somewhere, it had powerful psychic abilities and communicated by twisting itself into strange shapes. There's a setup for a good horror movie in there. Could even keep the same title.

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Re: Has The Toy companion been cut from the game? ($2M stretch goal)

Post by fairfax » January 26th, 2017, 4:06 pm

Since he's confirmed to be gone, I guess this isn't a spoiler anymore:

Oom stuff:

Aligern:
"What do you think of Oom?"
"I would like it better if I understood it. What if we do something it doesn't like? What then?" / "I would like it better if I understood it. What happens, for instance, if we do something it doesn't like?"

"I think it's best we part."
"Oh, well... hmm. I was having such a good time. I don't suppose I could take Oom with me...? No? Very well, then."
Matkina:
"What do you think of Oom?"
"Just keep it away from me, will you?"

"I'd rather lie with Oom than touch him."
Tybir:
"What do you think of Oom?"
"Don't like that little gadget of yours. Seems like it has a mind of its own sometimes." {SCRIPT: Initial reaction.}
"I guess it has its uses." {SCRIPT: Positive change.}
"I gave that thing a chance, but I was right the first time. It's a menace." {SCRIPT: Negative change.}
"Just keep it well away from me and we'll get on fine." {SCRIPT: No change.}
Erritis:
"It moves! Did you *see* that? I didn't imagine it this time. Not like all those other times!"
{sploosh noise}
"Like that! Just like that!"

"Isn't Oom cute? Even when it's attacking and slicing and murdering people, it's still adorable."
{hiss, splat noise}
"Awwww."

"Oom will never leave us, will it? Oom will never die, right? Tell me Oom will be with us always and forever."
{splort noise}
"You're the best, Oom."

"Oom is... becoming different. It's even more... Oom. OOM, as it were."
"oom."
"Yes! Just like I was saying!"

"I remember when Oom was just a toy. Quiet. Friendly. {Sad}Was willing to play more."
{squelch noise}
"You're just getting older, Oom. It happens to most people. And blobs."

"Oom, you're the best playmate. Your skin is like... not-sticky tar."

"Here, Oom! Can you do a trick for me?"

"So tell me, Oom. Can you really transform into *anything*?"

"You're a funny little thing. Understand everything we say, don't you?"

{happier}"You know just how to cheer me up, Oom."

"I don't even know what that thing is. Does it talk?"

"Can you just keep that blob away from me?"

"Go away, Oom. Go be a puddle someplace."

"What a fascinating little creature you are. Let me take a closer look at you."
{alarmed slurp}
"Oom, come here. Come HERE. {sigh} Why does it only respond to you, castoff?"
{indignant splort}
"What *are* you, Oom, and where can we find more of your kind?"
{sequence of noises}


"Oom."
{slithers into a new shape}
"Oom?"

"Oom, did our sire make you?"

"Oom, what *are* you?"


Don't know who Erritis is talking to here at first, but then he turns to Oom:

"I understand. You need to explore your feelings for me in private."
"My feelings for you aren't private. You just aren't listening."
{squelch}
"I wasn't asking for your affections, Oom. I'm fine, thanks."
{squelch}
"Well, that's a relief. I'd hate for someone to suggest that you and I are related."
"That's not a helpful answer."

Not sure about the ones below since it doesn't specify he's talking to, but seems to be about Oom:

"You aren't a mind reader, are you?"

"You don't like me, do you."

"You're constantly making noise. Are you worried we might forget you exist?"
Oom:
[Oom twists his head slightly and looks a you curiously.]

It's possible MCA ended up writing more Oom content than the rest of the team. :lol:

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Re: Has The Toy companion been cut from the game? ($2M stretch goal)

Post by sparkee666 » January 26th, 2017, 5:00 pm

I read the Sear post, but didn't read the removal of the toy. Where was it said the toy has been removed?

In the current beta Excluding the specter there is Rhin, Tybir, Erritis, Aligern, Matkina, and Callestege. If the companions were cut to 7 instead of 9 there is still one companion that needs to be introduced to the game.

If there are no more companions to be introduced, why would they do 6 companions when the original plan for followers was 5?

I think there is a possibility for the toy to show-up. Unless I get more info from InXile telling me otherwise.

I'm not going to take the Toy completely off of the table as a possible companion until the last companion is revealed or an announcement is made that there will be no more.

And if any new companions come as DLC, I never DL DLC so I won't count it.

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Post by Lord of Riva » January 26th, 2017, 10:15 pm

sparkee666 wrote:I read the Sear post, but didn't read the removal of the toy. Where was it said the toy has been removed?

In the current beta Excluding the specter there is Rhin, Tybir, Erritis, Aligern, Matkina, and Callestege. If the companions were cut to 7 instead of 9 there is still one companion that needs to be introduced to the game.

If there are no more companions to be introduced, why would they do 6 companions when the original plan for followers was 5?

I think there is a possibility for the toy to show-up. Unless I get more info from InXile telling me otherwise.

I'm not going to take the Toy completely off of the table as a possible companion until the last companion is revealed or an announcement is made that there will be no more.

And if any new companions come as DLC, I never DL DLC so I won't count it.
it was really really heavily implied. So good luck.

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Re: Has The Toy companion been cut from the game? ($2M stretch goal)

Post by D-D » January 27th, 2017, 1:58 am

sparkee666 wrote:I read the Sear post, but didn't read the removal of the toy. Where was it said the toy has been removed?
Thank you that's right!
sear wrote:Hi guys,

The companion roster has been slightly reduced from our initial plans.
Secret companions are normals for these games, maybe secret companion was cut and we have 9 left. Or cut from 9 to 8 and Oom and Riastad are still there. If a known companion was removed, they would say their name - they didn't say names, so it's likely secret companion that was removed...

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