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Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 12th, 2013, 11:24 am
by Brother None
Batch 4 of WASTE has gone up, with a note:
So I suppose I should start this announcement with an apology. It has been some time since we announced a new batch, but I assure you it is not out of malice or lethargy. Rather, we were attempting to hold off in an effort include these requests as part of a larger GDC announcement by another company. Alas, that did not come to fruition as you may be aware. However, I am hopeful that despite the non-starter, the new feature will still move forward. I have every expectation that your efforts on these first few batches have provided enormous amounts of food for thought on how the thing should work, so thank you for your patience. But I digress, please accept our sincerest apology and bear with us a bit longer.

And so, I present... Batch 4! Here you will find a few old friends, assets we received some excellent submittal for, but the artists really would love to have even more variety of these frequently used props. Additionally, we are requesting our first "tile set" meshes. For those of you with prior tile set creation experience, you should feel pretty comfortable with the seed file we are providing. It is very basic, the building blocks we use for our larger tile set assemblies. For those of you that have never attempted a tile set, please bear in mind that snapping these along our 8x8M grid in Unity3D is critical, so that seams between mesh to mesh should be exacting. I am happy to provide specific advice on this front should you have any questions on how or why we are using these dimensions. The seed file is meant to be crude and nondescript, but if you are familiar with our released videos, you know that you have seen iterations in action. Of course, due to the nature of this more complicated asset, compensation is expected to be a bit higher. Expectations on quality are equally higher since they are so predominant in our scenes.

Tile Set Dimensions (.txt)

Tile Set Seed File (.unitypackage 481k)

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 5:12 am
by Takkik
The limit for the tile set, <3k tri & 1 1024map, it's for each piece or for the full tileset?
EDIT:
I know we can use a single texture for many modular pieces, so what would be the limit of texture map for a tileset?
Another question, is it possible to have 1/2 tiles, like half walls (for angled roof or rooms with highter roof), or walls only 4m large for more variety with modular pieces for seamless integration with 8x8m tiles ?

EDIT:
1 more question : Are roofs importants or they are here just for blocking. Since the camera is top/down, will they be show in some cinematic shots?

For help & inspiration, eat3d & Digital-tutors have released tutorials about modular design :
http://eat3d.com/blog/eat-3d/new-dvd-re ... -tor-frick
http://www.digitaltutors.com/tutorial/8 ... vel-Design

EDIT:
Some gears of war 2&3 threads on polycount with modular environment stuff :
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62114
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthre ... nvironment

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 9:27 pm
by cw8
Yeah, that's my question too for the tilesets. Say I have a wall for a house, do we texture the wall as a single entity, i.e. 1 texture file to the wall, or texture the whole house as a single entity?

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 14th, 2013, 1:37 pm
by james___uk
Aside from reading I funnily enough learned the specifics of modular level asset creation from building this cave in the Skyrim creation kit, I thought 'ahh, so this does this because of this', etc. But still I've emailed some questions and I'll post my Q&As here if my email doesn't get buried XD But I'm sure it won't InXile are too awesome for that.

Really though in short, I've not really created tilesets or modular pieces in general much so this will be a bit of a learning curve for me!

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 15th, 2013, 1:12 pm
by d-Koy
Hello Wastelanders,

I am hopeful that the Unity seed file and Tile Set Dimensions doc will answer most questions on the tile set, but I expect there are many that it will not, so I will address those as I can. Please post additional questions in the other "Ask inXile Thread & About This Forum" thread , this batch announcement thread is really just for that and I will be less likely to see new questions posted here. I will re-post these questions there and address other issues as well.

thanks,

Koy

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 15th, 2013, 2:45 pm
by james___uk
^ What he said XD

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 15th, 2013, 8:30 pm
by Prime8brain
No idea what you are saying about the GDC announcement... but anyway, it's nice to see batch 4 :lol:

I'm not 100% sure which one I should pick.
A tileset sounds very interesting but I've never done that of course and it might be too difficult.

Radio Tower seams to be fun too. :)

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 16th, 2013, 10:15 am
by Crocapaw
Yay! Batch 4 is up :D There are so many choices, the water truck is tempting, but I think I'm gonna tackle the tileset.

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 30th, 2013, 12:50 am
by Gizmo
d-Koy wrote:I am hopeful that the Unity seed file and Tile Set Dimensions doc will answer most questions on the tile set, but I expect there are many that it will not, so I will address those as I can.
I have a question about double sided textures. What is the rule (of thumb?) with them in the cowd-sourced assets. Do you accept them? (And if not, do we really need to use duplicate-mirrored geometry to get the same same ~but more expensive effect?)

I'm a novice with Unity3d, but I read that you have to use a two pass shader to get double sided texturing.

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 30th, 2013, 11:00 am
by d-Koy
Gizmo wrote:
d-Koy wrote:I am hopeful that the Unity seed file and Tile Set Dimensions doc will answer most questions on the tile set, but I expect there are many that it will not, so I will address those as I can.
I have a question about double sided textures. What is the rule (of thumb?) with them in the cowd-sourced assets. Do you accept them? (And if not, do we really need to use duplicate-mirrored geometry to get the same same ~but more expensive effect?)

I'm a novice with Unity3d, but I read that you have to use a two pass shader to get double sided texturing.
I answered your question in the other thread so that other participants might follow...

http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.c ... &start=180

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: April 30th, 2013, 11:15 am
by james___uk
Have you guys gotten enough submissions for everything? I'm working on a radiation station now but if you need something done some of us could probably do it in the next few days ;D

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: May 1st, 2013, 10:39 am
by d-Koy
james___uk wrote:Have you guys gotten enough submissions for everything? I'm working on a radiation station now but if you need something done some of us could probably do it in the next few days ;D
As for Batch_04, we don't know yet actually, we haven't received any packages from Unity just quite yet. As for other Batches, we did have a few "back by popular demand" requests in 4, so we are hoping for a few more of those... but again, we might be getting some in the next few days? Will be sure to include additional BBPDs in batch 5 if we are still deficient on any particular set.

Thanks for asking!

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: May 1st, 2013, 11:00 am
by james___uk
Great, also, a batch 5 you say??? :D

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: May 1st, 2013, 11:25 am
by d-Koy
james___uk wrote:Great, also, a batch 5 you say??? :D
LOL, yes, we ARE trying to actually get another batch put together to release before 2014 :P

Our concept artist is stretched thin these days, well, as we all are... but this is not critical path so I get less love than I should.

We have a few already, and more on the way, so a new batch to be posted in the coming weeks.

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: November 8th, 2013, 7:15 am
by james___uk
^ Hope that's coming along well! Also I did submit some assets eventually a couple weeks ago, although they may have been 6 months late.... *cough*

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: May 10th, 2014, 10:52 pm
by ShaneD53
d-koy left the team around mid-2013 and it seemed he was the one coordinating this so that explain why Batch 5 never appeared. just some closure I guess.

Re: Batch 4 is up

Posted: May 11th, 2014, 3:30 am
by Tets
thx for the information