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[Crosmando]

Also a million times more complex and difficult to pull off than a dungeon-crawler, as far as I know every video game that's dealt with time-travel has been more or less linear, and there's probably a reason for that.

EDIT: Also, there's like a serious lack of good old honest first-person dungeon crawler RPGs out there, the iso/overhead perspective and story-driven approach has taken over. Sometimes you just want to roll a Bard, a Magician, a Rogue and some Warriors and kill shit.

[Drool]

Also, there's like a serious lack of good old honest first-person dungeon crawler RPGs out there

Off the top of my head, all I can think of in the last 5 or so years is M&MX, Grimrock, and Malevolence. Oh, and Devil Whiskey. And Malevolence is a single-character game, not a party.

Pleeeeeeeease no. BT04 was a funny game and it's writing was hilarious (as was that British guy who did the narration who's name escapes me), it poked fun at the genre very well.

Cary Elwes. Probably best known for The Princess Bride, Robin Hood: Men in Tights, and... Saw? Anyway, yes, he's fantastic. BT04 was a lot of fun (and I love the songs), but they scratched that itch. I want to go back to the world(s) of 1-3.

And I know I keep going on about 3, but I would love to have a game or games set in the other dimensions before Tarjan screwed everyone over. Seeing Gelidia before the ice spell froze the world. Lucencia before Alliria's torture and Cyanis's madness. Kinestia before Ferofist violated divine law and doomed his people. Tenebrosia before Scaedu's betrayal. For a dungeon crawler that was 99% fetch quest, there was a lot of story jammed into that game, which provides a lot of fodder for subsequent games.

The year I got Wasteland for Christmas, my brother got Bard's Tale 3. Those were the games I cut my RPG teeth on, so they both hold a special place in my heart. Even with a small amount of fantasy burnout, I would play the hell out of a new Bard's Tale game. A real Bard's Tale game.

[IHaveHugeNick]

Ha. Everything is proceeding as I have forseen

[Crosmando]

Off the top of my head, all I can think of in the last 5 or so years is M&MX, Grimrock, and Malevolence. Oh, and Devil Whiskey. And Malevolence is a single-character game, not a party.

Well.... MMX yes definitely, but Grimrock is a Dungeon Master clone - it's combat is closer to a pure action game than a cRPG, Malevolence is single-character as you mention and more like a roguelike, it's also not actually a finished game and probably won't be for a while. Devil Whiskey is 11 years old now, so not exactly new.

But yeah I'd agree that MMX and Devil Whiskey (also Wizardry 8) are games InXile's team would need to have a look at if they were going to do a BT game, just for looking at how turn-based "blobbers" can be done with modern graphics and all the rest.

[Dragoon]

I would love a sequel to Dragon Wars. Was for me my favorite "Bard's Tale" game.

[Drool]

Well.... MMX yes definitely, but Grimrock is a Dungeon Master clone - it's combat is closer to a pure action game than a cRPG, Malevolence is single-character as you mention and more like a roguelike, it's also not actually a finished game and probably won't be for a while. Devil Whiskey is 11 years old now, so not exactly new.

True. Grimrock's much more Eye of the Beholder than Bard's Tale. Also, I hadn't realized DW is that old. Cripes, that means we've got really slim pickings.

But yeah I'd agree that MMX and Devil Whiskey (also Wizardry 8)

Look to Wizardry 8, yes, but its combat was... weird. Especially since I think you could go real time with it. Either way, it felt strange to me, and not just because of the kind of fussy formation system.

[ShaneD53]

Welp. Roxy Friday is owned by Brian Fargo too by the way.
And here is Brian's statement on the matter as well:https://twitter.com/BrianFargo/status/5 ... 7198112768

[IHaveHugeNick]

Whoa, megaton.

I hope it is Meantime. Probably only project they can come up with that I will backup in a heartbeat without any reservations.

[ShaneD53]

...THAT is a hell of a twist right there.

[Lucius]

That Van Buren filing was a month before the Meantime filing. I have no idea what they would do with that. Make a spiritual successor to Fallout called Van Buren? Considering Wasteland, that just seems, odd. My guess is Meantime is there next game. They probably grabbed the Van Buren trademark because they could and I bet they couldn't figure out what to do with it exactly.

[IHaveHugeNick]

Van Buren game in collaboration with Obsidian?

Still, it would be quite bizzare for them to start two franchises that would be essentially competing with each other, and I figure Mr. Fargo didn't stay in business for 30 years without knowing the industry better then that.

[Crosmando]

Obviously it's an RPG where the Cochise develops a time-machine and sends Synths looking like humans into the past to kill the Engineers so the Rangers are never formed

[Crosmando]

Van Buren game in collaboration with Obsidian?

Still, it would be quite bizzare for them to start two franchises that would be essentially competing with each other, and I figure Mr. Fargo didn't stay in business for 30 years without knowing the industry better then that.

He probably trademarked Van Buren just because he could, their would be no point because Bethesda owns all the original design docs and assets for Interplay's Fallout 3 and they'd almost never let anyone use that stuff, with their own Fallout 4 on the way and all.

And even if they somehow did, New Vegas itself was heavily inspired by Van Buren's design docs. There's even an indie project to make Van Buren (you've probably seen the guy posting about it on these boards). No point really, so I think Meantime is more likely.

[-Archangel-]

Obviously it's an RPG where the Cochise develops a time-machine and sends Synths looking like humans into the past to kill the Engineers so the Rangers are never formed

And the player character is sent after them to stop their plan and help the Engineers
During that time your character has sex with a local woman that later gives birth to General Vargas

BTW, check out Paper Sorcerer if you want more MMX style games from year 2014.

[Drool]

That Van Buren filing was a month before the Meantime filing. I have no idea what they would do with that.

Use it as jingling keys so they can develop a game without insane Fallout fanboys trying to turn it into Van Buren. "Look, we own Van Buren! We'll do something with that, promise!"

[DarkNacht]

Fallout and Wasteland have very different styles. Van Buren could be a place where they could put their more off the wall Fallout style ideas with Meantime following in the more grounded Wasteland line.

[Lucius]

Fallout and Wasteland have very different styles. Van Buren could be a place where they could put their more off the wall Fallout style ideas with Meantime following in the more grounded Wasteland line.

Even with different styles, it's odd for a developer to have multiple franchises with similar themes; in this case, post apocalyptic.

[-Archangel-]

Fallout and Wasteland have very different styles. Van Buren could be a place where they could put their more off the wall Fallout style ideas with Meantime following in the more grounded Wasteland line.

Even with different styles, it's odd for a developer to have multiple franchises with similar themes; in this case, post apocalyptic.

Really? So it was strange that Interplay had Baldur's Gate and Icewind dale at same time?

[IHaveHugeNick]

Interplay was a major publisher not indie studio working with skeleton staff based on money received from fan funding.

Not to mention they kinda went tits up shortly after, which should tell you all about how expertly they conducted their business.

[Woolfe]

Fallout and Wasteland have very different styles. Van Buren could be a place where they could put their more off the wall Fallout style ideas with Meantime following in the more grounded Wasteland line.

Even with different styles, it's odd for a developer to have multiple franchises with similar themes; in this case, post apocalyptic.

Really? So it was strange that Interplay had Baldur's Gate and Icewind dale at same time?

Not really.. They are the same world(Forgotten Realms), same baseline history etc, really just 2 different adventures occurring in different places. They used the Same engine, the same underlying world rules etc. So its purely the local story that is different, and they could be tied in with the overarching FR universe.

As opposed to say Fallout and Wasteland, that have very different universes, and different rules, different engines etc.